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6:15 PM Undisputed Era   vs. Kenny V & the Smooth Jazz 5   MLK Jr
7:05 PM Fish and 'Ships   vs. Jacob's Ladder   MLK Jr
7:55 PM Early Bird Special   vs. Born To Run   MLK Jr
8:45 PM Moose Knucklers   vs. MD Camacho Squad   MLK Jr

 

6:15 PM ERA VS The Sexiest Guys I Know

God it feels like we haven’t played in forever!!!!!!!!!!!!! I anticipate some major rust in this game, could be very very ugly, as we all rush to try and make this early ass game slot. Not much weight with this game as far as Era . they are locked into he basement slot, where my team could reach the 2 seed if the right things play out.

BUY or SELL

I score more than 14 points

Harry scores more than 6

Kap/Cawley will combine for 50 +

Ghost  hits 2 3’s

Both teams will combine for less than 100

Be pretty dumb if I didn’t pick my squad to win lets say 55-51 in a slop fest

7:05 PM Fish VS Ladder

This game could go one of two ways, Ladder moves the ball inside out and promotes cohesiveness, or they go back to the iso ball that has doomed them all session, which has doomed not just their play but their moral also. Fish have also struggled with some chemistry issues, and flow, its gonna come down to who can figure it out, and play as a T E A M.

BUY or Sell

Jesse/Manny under 2 arguments

Paris combined points/rebounds =50+

Abrams shoots over 60% from the line

Leblanc/Pollock  record 12 assist combined

Ian hits 3 3’s

Chuck/Vjorde miss 6 layups

Both teams on the ropes, but I will go with Fish here. I don’t see a ton of answers for Pollock/Leblanc , and Fish have the size to limit Manny/Paris. Fish-63 Ladder -57

7:55 Early Birds VS BTR (GAME OF THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Two teams with different styles in this one , BTR will blow you out of the gym with their explosive playmakers, and the Birdies look to chew you up and spit you out, with their size, and bruising D .

BUY or Sell

Noah scores less than 10

Nestler has 8 combined steals/blocks

STAT will miss 4 ft’s

Tenney will score 30 +

Weinstein will shoot 80% from the floor

Mc1 throws his hands up in disgust at least 3 times  

I’m gonna go with BTR in this one , this team is too good to keep coming up short. I can say they need to move the rock more, as they get into iso mode a lot, but I think mc1  will have his boys playing well. BTR-75 Birdes -73

8:45 PM Moose VS Camacho

Camacho comes into this game a seriously wounded animal; KD/ISAAC/Solis are down with injuries, we shall see who fills on for Camacho but it’s not looking great, as they go up against the best team in the league but I think they get a gift as Joel is on a white sandy beach according to Instagram.

Buy or Sell

Joel  30+ text trying to find out if his team won

Billy has at least 4 fist pumps

Sparado is held to under 15 points

Mirza has a combined 30 pts/rebounds

Corrigan has +6 assist

Civale  hits 5 3’s

I’ve said this before but just too much to overcome for Camacho , Mirza will have his boys fighting but I don’t see it. Moose-70 Camacho-53 

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BUY or SELL
I score more than 14 points

 

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BUY or Sell

Jesse/Manny under 2 arguments

Amazing. Sell.

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Last time we played them I had 15 and only one three, so I'm taking the OVER on me scoring 10 points.

 

We won on a last second tip-in, but that was also before Nestler shook the rust off, asserted himself on offense and became the MVP of the league.  They also shot terrible from outside last time, so I expect that to revert back and we'll have a down to the wire game.

 

Noah's current award picks -

MVP - Nestler

Easy pick IMO. 

Started off a little slow which bring down his season averages, but in the past couple weeks he's averaging 26 points, 18.5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3.5 steals, 3.5 blocks. Speaks for itself.

OPOY - Jackson

Averaging 18 points and 4 assists on season. There are others with similar to slightly better stats and you could argue he gets some of the Noah Effect (scores a lot because the opponent's best defenders are focused elsewhere) but Billy also serves as the field general for his team and does a great job on making the offense work.

DPOY - Nestler

I typically don't like giving someone MVP and another award, so you could find someone else, but his rebounding, steals and blocks are all top or near top of league.

ROY - Spardo

Enjoying a monster stat season even while his team flounders at the bottom of the rankings.

GM - Spaulding

Giving myself this award just because (1) I think the Nestler trade has proven itself a good move, even outside of KD's injury and (2) lots of haters in the preason rankings, but we're getting the job done.

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Need a fill in for the 7:55 game to join me, casey and cavano.  Missing Weinstein Dan and Zack.  Need Noah's approval

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michael mccauley said
Need a fill in for the 7:55 game to join me, casey and cavano.  Missing Weinstein Dan and Zack.  Need Noah's approval  

This is Civale. I’d sub in, unless Noah’s scared

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Also can join if needed! Chuck here 

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michael mccauley said
Need a fill in for the 7:55 game to join me, casey and cavano.  Missing Weinstein Dan and Zack.  Need Noah's approval  

Can sub if necessary as well.  No class tonight

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bpc452 said

This is Civale. I’d sub in, unless Noah’s scared  

 

That's never gonna fly

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Last time we played them I had 15 and only one three, so I'm taking the OVER on me scoring 10 points.

 

We won on a last second tip-in, but that was also before Nestler shook the rust off, asserted himself on offense and became the MVP of the league.  They also shot terrible from outside last time, so I expect that to revert back and we'll have a down to the wire game.

 

Noah's current award picks -

MVP - Nestler

Easy pick IMO. 

Started off a little slow which bring down his season averages, but in the past couple weeks he's averaging 26 points, 18.5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3.5 steals, 3.5 blocks. Speaks for itself.

OPOY - Jackson

Averaging 18 points and 4 assists on season. There are others with similar to slightly better stats and you could argue he gets some of the Noah Effect (scores a lot because the opponent's best defenders are focused elsewhere) but Billy also serves as the field general for his team and does a great job on making the offense work.

DPOY - Nestler

I typically don't like giving someone MVP and another award, so you could find someone else, but his rebounding, steals and blocks are all top or near top of league.

ROY - Spardo

Enjoying a monster stat season even while his team flounders at the bottom of the rankings.

GM - Spaulding

Giving myself this award just because (1) I think the Nestler trade has proven itself a good move, even outside of KD's injury and (2) lots of haters in the preason rankings, but we're getting the job done.  

Any other awards you want to give your team?

Also your justification for yourself as GMOY sucks. You have a good case, but your reasoning here sucks. "I picked a guy some of the captains have never seen before, therefore my moved proved right." Say what? 

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I drafted a team that lots of people thought would be bad or mediocre and we're one of, if not the best, team in the league. Part of getting there involved executing on a trade to get a guy that was collectively undervalued by the league. What else are you supposed to look for in a GM award besides beating expectations, making a smart move, etc?

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GAME 1 Undisputed Era 71 - Kenny V and the Smooth Jazz 5 66

A big win for Undisputed Era in this one, as it finally looked like they figured out some things, especially on the offensive end. They found a lot of mismatches throughout, drew double teams, and then found the right man (Ghost, on many occasions), and they were knocking down the shots they needed to. With the exception of a strange 5 minute stretch where they turned it over probably 4 or 5 times, they were also pretty solid with the ball and didn't make too many mistakes. That's the kind of play I was expecting more of when the session began. Their defense, while still a bit susceptible at times, was much better in this one than it had been leading up to this week's game. Cawley did a great job of attacking and getting to the line, and Kap was able to ice the game at the FT line down the stretch, after Kenny V made a wild run through the middle of the second half to overcome a 9 point deficit and turn it into a 6 point lead with 5-6 minutes left.

But it wasn't enough for Kenny V, who -- with the exception of the aforementioned stretch -- couldn't string together enough stops. Chas was getting cooked all night by Kap, as he was playing him too tight too far away from the rim. Kap was smart about attacking the side of the floor Ghost was on, and too many times that led to whoever was guarding Ghost for KV to leave him just long enough to set up Ghost's foot-on-the-3-line special. Lefty came on really strong in the second half, and Kenny also did his patented mini run of 3s, but it just wasn't enough in the end. They needed more on the offensive end from Evan, Chas, and Comenitz (or at least one of those three), and too many blow-bys and bad switches left them with less-than desirable matchups on that end of the floor. They were at there best when their defense was turning into offense. When they got stuck in the half court, there was too much feeding the ball to Lefty and hoping he'd score, especially in the second half. 

In total, seems like both of these teams might be returning back to the mean -- a good thing for Undisputed Era, and probably not the best sign for Kenny V

 

GRADES

UNDISPUTED ERA

Harry (B) -- Made Evan pay the couple of times he did leave him, and otherwise set some good screen, captained the team well. Stats don't show the impact here.

Kap (A) -- Great game from Kap, especially after what seemed like a pretty slow/sluggish start. He gets the full A for a couple of reasons: FTs down the stretch, and his really smart approach, attacking and making whoever was guarding Ghost help off. A truly veteran performance. He's my MVP of game 1.

Cawley (B+) -- A B+ that would have been an A- had he been able to hit a few more of his FTs. Attacked well, and got Kenny V in foul trouble, which mattered a lot. But did struggle with his shot, and wasn't the primary offensive option, which most nights I think he'll need to be.

Ghost (A) -- Classic Ghost performance. Must have shot close to 70% from the field, and did it in both halves, from all over the court.

Justin (B-) -- Hit a huge 3 in the corner late in the game. Didn't get as much usage in this one, but he really didn't need to, and it's probably better he let the offense work through the other guys. Still, liked the minutes that he did log.

 

KENNY V

Chas (D-) - This was one of the worst games I've seen Chas play. He got outplayed on both ends, with Kap getting into the lane time and time again with very little resistance. Add to that a couple of crucial TOs, and it was just a rough night for our favorite B Draft commentator.

Lefty (A-) - Struggled a bit at the start, but had an amazing 2nd half to give them a chance. I do think that sometimes Lefty is a bit too willing to take over the offensive rhythm, especially in the 2nd half. There's good reason for that, but sometimes things get a bit unbalanced. 

Evan (B-) - Seemed pretty frustrated most of the night, and though he had a couple of nice moments, didn't make enough of an impact on either end of the floor.

Comenitz (C+) - A real struggle on offense for Comenitz, who looked like the early season version who was a liability on that end of the floor. Defense was ok, but he did put Cawley on the line a few times, eventually fouling out.

Kenny (B+) - Scored well, and he played a huge part in the second half run, but that great defense he'd been playing the last few weeks wasn't quite there. He got lost behind screens on a few plays, left Kap wide open once for 3, etc.

 

  

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My face hurts from being slapped with so many back-handed compliments.  First, I'm a big fan of Nestler as a front runner for MVP and I've been saying that a bit to Chas and Austin.  But if the comparison were indeed to come down to between me and Nestler, I'd say the eyeball test might be a better measurement than stats since Nestler often has to play 40 minutes being on a team with only 5 guys (often missing a player too), where I often help my team get to large enough leads early on that I sometimes don't play for the last 5-10 minutes of the game.  I'll let the statkeepers who actually watch all the games be the judge of the end of season awards though... instead of so candidly handing them all to players on my own team.

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My face hurts from being slapped with so many back-handed compliments.  First, I'm a big fan of Nestler as a front runner for MVP and I've been saying that a bit to Chas and Austin.  But if the comparison were indeed to come down to between me and Nestler, I'd say the eyeball test might be a better measurement than stats since Nestler often has to play 40 minutes being on a team with only 5 guys (often missing a player too), where I often help my team get to large enough leads early on that I sometimes don't play for the last 5-10 minutes of the game.  I'll let the statkeepers who actually watch all the games be the judge of the end of season awards though... instead of so candidly handing them all to players on my own team.  

It seems like you're trying to make an MVP case for yourself? LOL.

There is no planet on which anyone would ever pick you over Nestler in a re-draft. Also, he's dominant on defense, which at least in my humble opinion, should factor in pretty heavily for an overall MVP award.

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docspauld said

It seems like you're trying to make an MVP case for yourself? LOL.

There is no planet on which anyone would ever pick you over Nestler in a re-draft. Also, he's dominant on defense, which at least in my humble opinion, should factor in pretty heavily for an overall MVP award.  

That part doesn't matter when deciding MVP. But yes Nestler > Billy. Defensive dominance and Billy molds his team to fit what he does best. Nestler has to deal with a bunch of guys who only see the hoop.

All this talk also reminds me how a lot of first rounds are having down seasons. Manny is having a down season. Pollock and Leblanc go together like oil and water. Lefty hasn't been playing up to usual standards. KD got hurt. Shaffer is back on another offense that doesn't fit him (Which also disqualifies Billy from being MVP and OPOY in my eyes). 

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That part doesn't matter when deciding MVP. But yes Nestler > Billy. Defensive dominance and Billy molds his team to fit what he does best. Nestler has to deal with a bunch of guys who only see the hoop.

 

Assists per game for Undisputed Era: 10.8

Assists per game for Early Bird Special: 10.1

 

Obviously we're a somewhat more ISO/Post-up heavy offense than a lot of teams in the league, but even so we're right in the middle of the pack for assists per game, middle of the pack in points allowed per game and second in points scored per game. Nestler is 100 % the MVP right now, and we haven't 100% clicked but I think you're selling the construction of our team a little bit short. 

 

I will say that it's pretty impressive that 3 of the top 5 assist guys are on the same team. Moose Knucklers ball movement has been extremely good this season, and it'll make them dangerous in the playoffs. 

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STAT Stoudemire said

HTD1223 said
That part doesn't matter when deciding MVP. But yes Nestler > Billy. Defensive dominance and Billy molds his team to fit what he does best. Nestler has to deal with a bunch of guys who only see the hoop.

 

Assists per game for Undisputed Era: 10.8

Assists per game for Early Bird Special: 10.1

 

Obviously we're a somewhat more ISO/Post-up heavy offense than a lot of teams in the league, but even so we're right in the middle of the pack for assists per game, middle of the pack in points allowed per game and second in points scored per game. Nestler is 100 % the MVP right now, and we haven't 100% clicked but I think you're selling the construction of our team a little bit short. 

 

I will say that it's pretty impressive that 3 of the top 5 assist guys are on the same team. Moose Knucklers ball movement has been extremely good this season, and it'll make them dangerous in the playoffs.   

I don't think judging my team against yours for ball sharing is a great barometer to prove ball sharing. For example, we're .7 ahead of you guys, but you're only 1 ahead of Jacob's Ladder, who isn't exactly known for spreading the rock around. I don't think my team has been that great either. 

Perhaps I am selling your team construction short.. You guys keep winning and somehow you've convinced the 6th guy not to show up. So props to you.

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docspauld said

It seems like you're trying to make an MVP case for yourself? LOL.

There is no planet on which anyone would ever pick you over Nestler in a re-draft. Also, he's dominant on defense, which at least in my humble opinion, should factor in pretty heavily for an overall MVP award.  

Not sure what there is to laugh about.  If I'm not in the top 2 then I don't know who else is.  Defense has been a big part of Austin and Chas saying I have some MVP consideration -- I actually wouldn't put myself in the top 2 for OPOY.  I think Tenney (top scorer in league) and KAP (more ppg and apg than me) have stronger claims to to OPOY than I do.  You likely only put me as OPOY yourself because you know it is traditionally given as the "MVP Runner Up Award"... which makes it kinda weird that you would laugh at me having any MVP case.

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I've heard people point out Shaffer having a "down year" this season which I think is incorrect. 

He's on the team that is by a significant margin the #1 offensive and #1 defensive team in the league w/ a differential of +12 ppg.  How much better can he be?  We're an excellent team, but I don't think our 6 guys are all so talented that we should be winning every game by an average of 20+ ppg.  I think some people tend to focus too much on individual stats rather than team performance which should be the ultimate goal.  I think if anything he has shown another dimension to his game that people must not have known he had which is the ability to make his teammates better around him and allow them to flourish alongside him.  Considering our team's success, he clearly must be affecting the game in ways that don't show up in his box score stats.

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docspauld said

ROY - Spardo

Enjoying a monster stat season even while his team flounders at the bottom of the rankings.

He's a monster in general, not just in stats.  He'd be even better with a good point guard too.

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